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Additions to Motorhome pages:-
1.Fitting New Automatic Water System Pump
2.Winterising the water pump.
3.Water Tank Level Meter-modification to electronic circuit

4.Basin Mixer Taps - tip & how to repair a dripping tap.
5.Extending Fresh Water Drain Tap to Outside

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Contents:
1. Our first reactions and impressions of the new purchase. 2.  New waste tank Tap


AUTOHOMES WANDERER

POST INSPECTION MARCH 2002

The days prior to us collecting our Autohomes Wanderer, My wife and I busied our selves cleaning and making our old Motorhome as we  would like to receive it ourselves. Paper work and notes of modifications was prepared for the new owner.  

Days before this I had a telephone call from the dealer to inform me our new Pre-Owned Motorhome was ready for collection.

We arrived at the West Country site with excitement, this was to be an upgrade for us with increased living space. 

We carried out the business of transfer and paid for the Motorhome with a 'Bankers Draft' Then we were told the Motorhome would have to be collected from the garage which had carried out the pre-delivery service.

Our old Motorhome looked immaculate so in the waiting time my wife took our last photos’ of the van.  We had had reliable running from this vehicle and it had never let us down, even during the first week of purchase when it had a major ignition problem. 

Our 'New' van arrived and we gave it our check.  This vehicle had supposedly been  serviced for our arrival.  I found the Peugeot headlamp piston assembly which adjusts the  headlamp, had been broken off at the body support, the battery had obviously overflowed at some stage and the battery tray was corroded and rusty, the earthing bolt and earthing cable were red with rust and would need immediate attention.  When I mentioned these points to the Salesman he said; “What do expect for a second hand vehicle!”

There was no gas bottle, no hook-up cable, no caravan step, no ladder for the Luton bed area, and no radio, I was told that Peugeot did not install radios in vans and this was a van, and if I wanted a radio it would cost me £120.  As we had such a good deal on the vehicle I ignored the comments and shrugged my shoulders, but thought to myself the Motorhome I was handing over was 10 years old and had a radio and had been serviced, In my line of my work, before retirement,  I had driven vans of all descriptions, for 25 years, and each one of them had a radio.

To me, anyone who removes a radio before sale of a vehicle is carrying out a THEFT and should be treated as such. I have come across this before and it amazes me these thieving people consider themselves decent individuals. Having said that the dealer informed me the Boxer did not have a radio fitted!

An obvious minor fault, two locker door catches were faulty,  I was given two so I could replace them myself.

By this time I was rather peeved, so the Gentleman who was showing us the vehicle and all it’s workings agreed to allow me to remove all the missing items from our old van and transfer to our “New” van.  I did not remove the radio.  He volunteered a ladder for us, which was an aluminium type and obviously not the matching part for the vehicle.   When I got home I found the ladder was too short and there was no facilities on the Luton to attach the ladder.  Ringing the dealer, he offered to replace the ladder with a longer one, as long as we paid the postage both ways, £20 each way.  I have since extended this ladder with parts from my own workshop. I also introduced a securing feature for the ladder.

By this time my wife had been looking through the caravan area, she came up with the loud comment; “This van has not been serviced or cleaned.”  When she looked at the grill she found the toasted crumbs from the previous occupants.  I thought to my self of all the work my wife and I had put into our old van before handing it over, we choked at the exhibition of our “New” van and the thought of the previous owners passing on the vehicle in such a state.

Driving our vehicle home was a depressing event but I was sure I could bring the vehicle up our standards.  I also thought, having had a good deal, do we have to expect this sort of treatment from a dealer who was passing £18,000 through his hands.

The drive home was full of apprehension, did the engine perform as expected? Did we give it a thorough test on our previous test run?  The Peugeot Boxer 1.9Ltr Turbo diesel performed well and better than my expectations, on the M4 Motorway to South Wales, our home location.

Since then I have been through the vehicle and carried out some of my own repairs and modifications. 

The battery tray has been removed, all corrosion removed and painted with Hammerite, the rust protection paint.  The corroded earth bolt was removed, with difficulty and replaced. The earth cables from the battery has been cleaned and secured with a new earth bolt, the rusted area around the earth bolt was also painted with Hammerite.   The tray which the battery sits on had it’s drain pipe broken while all this work was carried out, this had to be repaired. The rusted cross member repaired. See my other page for the repair.

The rusted spare wheel cage has been renovated and painted. This was not the fault of the previous owners but the poor finish from the factory.

The gas locker bottle retainers were fitted for a larger gas bottle.  As we do a lot of continental travelling we have standardized on the Campingaz 907 bottle, so the bottle brackets had to be lowered inside the locker.

The Thetford cassette toilet is the C4 manual type with a handle, which has to be pressed to obtain the flush water.  I've given this some thought and an electric modification could be on the cards in the future, as arthritic hand joints are now a problem.  See my other page for this modification, Modification to the C4

The ignition is secure and looks for the electronic tag on the key.  This has to be a good innovation.  The door locks look to be rather easy to enter so the door roll bolt modification from Safeways Ltd  will be carried out shortly.

An alarm had been fitted by the previous owner, but now refuses to work since the earth bolt repairs, and as he did not leave any information or paper work with the van, it looks as if this will have to be scrapped. 

A later interior check in my workshop, has shown that the earth point of the alarm is fixed inside the alarm container to the bracket nut.  This would give earth to chassis through the bracket. This would save the installer installing an earth for the device! so this device will now be retained, although it's only function is to make noise when the door opens.

The drain tap for the useful large Grey water tank is located at the rear of the vehicle.  This type of tap was used on our previous Motorhome and proved to be a nuisance in use.  This was due to a 22mm pipe being attached to the tap with a 12mm outlet this used to block up regularly. 

During the  purchase of the Motorhome,  I noticed the dealer had in his accessory stand a C.A.K. through bore 25mm tap.  This tap when fully open allows full bore emptying and also allows one to place a rod through the tap to the tank to clear any blockages.  I fitted one to my previous Motorhome and had no problems with it. One was purchased and will be fitted later.  Before fitting,  a 22mm to 3/4” adapter must be purchased from the local Plumbers store.  This allows the 22mm pipe to be attached to the 3/4” input of the C.A.K.  tap

C.A.K. Tap.

2005

   The one I changed was a CAK type SUPADRAIN WASTE TAP part number SDT099,  [ email: sales[at]caktanks.co.uk  tel: 0870 757 2324  web site: www.caktanks.co.uk ]

Regrettably the CAK tap has only survived 2 years! The handles broke off.  The interior ball plastics 'Froze' together!

It has now been replaced with a new metal 3/4" type through put valve with a substantial handle.

I changed the tap to a metal Full Bore Lever Ball Valve 22mm one which can be obtained from any DIY Hardware store, and is very smooth and easy to use. There are three types, water, gas, I forget the other, at least they have white, yellow and red handles. I bought the yellow handle as it was available at the time, I then placed a white plastic tape on it to represent water.

They are mechanically the same, it's just the plastic on the handle which is different.

The one I bought came in a 22mm fitting as this is the pipe from the waste tank.

The original was a real pain. 3/4" in and 3/8" out!

You might find if you have a 3/4" pipe and it does not fit snugly, you will have to buy with it a 3/4" to 22mm adaptor, or use plenty of plumbers paste or plumber white tape!

I intend placing the old tap to the back of the motorhome, where on mine, Autohomes placed a push fit type drain. This fitting is always a problem when I want to drain down for the winter lay off.

If it is not drained the pump holds water which can freeze and destroy it.

See:  http://www.screwfix.com/jsp/container.jsp   £5.49 [ As at 2006]

New Waste water tank Tap

Waste water Tank Tap Replacement

Which has proved to be very reliable

The spare wheel cradle is very rusty, but as it's not part of the chassis so this repair can be left when the weather is warmer.

While driving back I noticed the Cabin lights were on and wondered why as I had turned off the Battery/Leisure battery switch, on the control panel to neutral.  A later check of the van electric’s later, showed the cabin lights were an addition by the previous owner and had been connected straight to the leisure battery cable of the control panel. This meant there was no fuse protection for this circuit.  This will be changed as a first job, to a fuse protected output.

Where the pipes had been taken through the floor by the Coachbuilder, the larger than necessary holes have to be sealed from draughts.  I have done two but every time I look underneath the vehicle I find more.  I do not include the necessary vented holes in this comment. The problem with leaving these holes exposed is the sandwich of plywood, styrene and plywood floor allows a point where rotting could start of the ply base plate.  Perhaps I’m too late it is a 5 year old vehicle.

The Grey water waste tank is located to the rear of the vehicle and is contained in a well made cage.  The problem is the cage is slightly larger than the tank, when I inspected this tank I found I could move it by hand, which produced a rumbling when travelling.   This was corrected by placing plastic spacers inside the frame which secured the tank without serious modifications. 

The spare wheel is located under the chassis at the rear and was also loose and shaking in it’s frame.  A timber spacer screwed to the under floor secured the spare wheel. 

What I have found annoying is the lack of power points.  Only one is fitted in this vehicle. I don’t know how the previous owners managed.  I will probably fit three more.  One inside one of the locker’s which will contain our low current Microwave.  Any one contemplating this type of addition should ensure the cable used has the current carrying capacity of 13 amps.

The locker along side the cooker will have the interior shelf lowered to enable a 10” TV to be stored inside.  Located above this locker is the only 13 Amp power socket in the Motorhome.

Carrying out further checks after arriving home I was horrified to find the back panel of the Motorhome which is attached to the base plate had a gap of about a quarter of an inch from one end to the other.  Closer inspection showed that the back panel had been glued to the base plate but the wall covering had not been removed from the glue area, so as soon as the glue dried and cured,  the back panel placed the strain on the wall covering and came away from the plywood.  This probably happened within hours of the Motorhome construction.  I am at a loss to understand how the rest of the factory building team did not notice this fault as I found it within minutes of my checking.  The warranty given with the Motorhome after sale states it does not cover manufacturers defects!  See my repair description in Page 5

The Motorhome dealer advised me to visit a local Caravan repairer. I was astounded to be told this was quite normal in caravan building and not to be worried about as it was obvious it hadn't moved in the 5 years prior to my purchasing the Motorhome! 

I intend to do the work my self, probably placing a timber support and using “FillGrip” which secures and has the property to fill any gap and remain flexible.

For extra security,  Locking Roll bolts from Safeways Ltd, Birkenhead, [ I have now found this supplier is not advertising, but, a search on ebay show many similar roll bolts available ]  it was immediately fitted to the cab doors.  I found this work to be a trial to fit.  I did not experience the same frustration when fitting these items to the Renault Trafic, our previous Motorhome.  The Peugeot Boxer certainly has heavier doors and the metal work in the doors are much thicker.   Having done this modification for the second time, I have to say it is not the type of DIY work for the non mechanical person.   Taking off the panel to work inside the door interior took over an hour trying to find out how the panel was installed, even then the panel "fir tree" securing devices foiled me as they were so tight in the holders that the door boarding collapsed and had to be repaired before re-fitting, after work was complete.  Due to the strength of the doors and lack of space inside, drilling and filing the lock holes took an age.

The supplied table is stored in the wardrobe. This table is extremely heavy and the thought of placing this in the wardrobe every day was not a job I relished.  So I have built a smaller table using parts from Caravan dealers and which also matches the van interior. Although half the size of the original it is large enough for my wife and I,  and lighter to handle.  It is proposed to have the table erected at all times, then place the table legs under the bed locker gaps, and securing with an elastic bungy while travelling.  

This method has proved to be very successful.  It is instantly available when refreshment stops are needed.  At night the table is small enough to collapse on to the floor, under the bed.  No lifting and heaving at night,  into a wardrobe full of clothes.


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